The New York Daily News
Mar. 17, 1992
Gang Land Column
By Jerry Capeci
Don't know beans about Frank
Frank (Frankie Loc) LoCascio is a
co-defendant at John Gotti's racketeering and murder trial, but
he is certainly not Gotti's co-star.
Occasionally, LoCascio gets mentioned in the FBI's taped
conversations between Gotti and former right-hand-man-in-crime
Salvatore (Sammy Bull) Gravano, and once in a while he even says
a few words on the tapes.
Yesterday, for example, in one lengthy conversation that
prosecutors say clearly demonstrates efforts by Gotti & Co.
to obstruct justice, LoCascio was heard muttering words that a
maitre d' or head waiter might say.
"Heat up them meatballs, Norman," said LoCascio,
adding, seconds later, "What (do) they want?"
That discussion was one of five that took place two flights
above the Ravenite Social Club in an apartment that was home to a
widow of a former Gambino soldier. LoCascio was obviously hungry
at the time.
In another long, drawn-out discussion among seven alleged
co-conspirators that lasted a half-hour and took 42 pages to
transcribe, LoCascio said fewer than 15 words, doling them out
carefully, a few words at a time.
"You got a fireplace?" was one utterance.
"Jerking us over" was another. "Customer" and
"ex-cop" were two others, and for his grand finale,
"Ain't doing nothing together?"
And in another conversation among five persons, just a little
shorter than the previous one, LoCascio did not make a sound--not
even a cough--as Gotti and Gravano quizzed convicted lawyer
Michael Coiro about his corrupt source in the Nassau County
district attorney's office.
LoCascio's lack of participation was so glaring--the excerpt
played for the jury ran 37 pages--that prosecutor Laura Ward
found it necessary to remind the jury that LoCascio was there
during her questioning of the FBI's tape expert.
"Frankie's from the old school, he doesn't say
much," said one law enforcement official, in the
understatement of the trial.
When prosecutors played several hours of silent FBI videotapes
of comings and goings around the Ravenite, LoCascio could usually
be seen walking and talking with Gotti, Gravano and others, but
not heard by the jury, of course.
LoCascio is accused of talking part in one of the five murders
in the indictment, but during the tapes that have been played so
far, LoCascio is a heavy listener who says little, if anything,
to incriminate himself.
Even in one long conversation in which Gotti says he killed
two mobsters for Gravano and was going to kill another who failed
to "come in " to see him, LoCascio does little more
than listen to Gotti rant and rave about Gravano's greed.
In the one murder in which Gravano testified that LoCascio
played a supporting role, LoCascio never said a word as he drove
up, opened the car trunk from the inside and drove away with the
body of Robert (DeeBee) DiBernardo.
Under questioning from prosecutor John Gleeson, Gravano said
LoCascio never volunteered any details about the disposal of the
body, and Gravano never asked: "It was none of my
business."
Under cross-examination by Anthony Cardinale, Gravano also
said LoCascio never received any money from two gambling
operations and one loansharking business allegedly controlled by
Gotti.
LoCascio lives quietly in the Bronx, raises and trains horses
on an upstate New York farm and has no major convictions.
According to the tapes, however, LoCascio was "made"
back in the 1950's, when Carlo Gambino was boss, and under Gotti
became a capo, acting underboss, and in 1990, the crime family's
acting consigliere, or counselor.
Locascio often attends sidebar
conferences called by Judge I. Leo Glasser, invariably returning
to his seat with a big smile on his face and a thumbs-up gesture
to his son and other supporters in the audience.
Yesterday, after one sidebar, before he gave his usual smiling
thumbs-up to the audience, he whispered his report to Gotti, who
took it all in, then turned to reporters, pointed to LoCascio,
and said with a smile, "Counselor."
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